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 05-25-2006, 08:09 Post: 129808
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Okay Peters,

I’ll bite what are you poking at?






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 05-25-2006, 11:11 Post: 129822
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Wing, me thinks you got a personal problem with one guy. You certainly don't speak for all Americans.

Peters,

Interesting. I can remember religious folks back in the seventies predicting the end and complaining about the same stuff.

Your worries may or may not be justified. How would you know without a metric or threshold?

The trigger point maybe orders of magnitude away from where we are today.

I agree there’s a lot to be concerned about it. Not sure I agree with where I’d focus my energies.

Btw, what is the ultimate goal of a “lover of God”? Curious, different people give different opinions.






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 05-25-2006, 14:54 Post: 129839
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Peters,

Who the heck is Chicken Little? Not being funny, just not up on the cartoon characters. I gather he’s some kind of prophet?

And you’ve really lost me with the following:

“I am concerned with the attributes given these people and what we are instructed to do. Certainly we can see Western society having many of these traits.”

What are you talking about?


Wing,

Maybe you guys ain't all talking to the same God ----







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 05-25-2006, 15:13 Post: 129842
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"who are the craziest, rude, speed demon, drivers ever to hit the black top? yup! the Canadians, 90 mph in a blinding snowstorm, when the Speed limit is 70 Candians think that is Kilometers."


Wing,

It could be that they're just really skilled.








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 05-25-2006, 22:44 Post: 129861
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Wing,

Sounds like you're going down man.


Peters,

What's your ultimate goal?


If you're both serving the same God, as an outsider there seems to be a conflict in interpretation, or one of you is telling a "fib".







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 05-26-2006, 13:05 Post: 129918
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The fundamental problem with Murf’s analogy is that for decades there have been several anti American countries that were run by dictators. The majority of them were / are ruthless and all the bad things he stated.

Don’t forget that in Sadam’s case he was the US lacky of the Middle East for a long time and to a large extend under US air control.

The argument could be made that if the people of Iraq were so desperate to rise up, the opportunity was certainly there.

Try a different analogy.

Btw Ann, we don't all agree.

America was once a great country, has the potential to be a great country but is quickly on it's way to be coming a third world country.

That's my opinion.






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 05-27-2006, 12:29 Post: 129937
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Wing,

You’re truly a man of passion, but sometimes passion without thought is pretty silly. But then I forgot, you are a sales man.

I have to admit my memory isn’t as good as it use to be. But there was this little war back in the ‘80’s that involved Iraq and Iran. We did have a vested in interest in supporting Iraq and we did supply biological,chemical and other technologies.

Why don’t you do some research and report back. How about that famous handshake? Ah that’s nothing --- forget about it.






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 05-29-2006, 11:30 Post: 129989
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Wing,

Sometimes, you ramble on like an idiot. Your problem is not curiosity; it’s the lack there of and the tendency towards "myopicness".

Re-read some of the stuff you’ve written.

Yes we did have a vested interest in pitting Iraq against Iran.

Re this crap about who supports this country more:

I don’t know for sure, but I suspect that you remained in service for as long as you did because:

a) You were just stupid and liked getting your teeth kicked in

b) You really didn’t have enough skills to do anything else.


And btw, if you have retired from the military I’m contributing to your wages. So don’t be so quick to bite the hand that feeds you.

Based on your statements about your income, I don’t make any 12 –15 X your income but my tax liability is at least that.

People like me support slackers like you who believe the system owes them something. You complain about Hilary and the social liberals, but you are sure willing to consume the entitlements provided by their rampant socialistic policies.

This country can survive a grave terrorist attack. Its demise will be as a result of poor economic polices. There’s tens of millions of Americans just like you, all looking for that free ride and unwilling to carry their fiscal load.

So don’t start yapping to me about how you support this country. Meaningful support is more than just waving the flag; it takes thought, the will and fortitude to do the right thing.

If I had my way, I would build that damn wall and kick all the scum bucket slackers like you out on to the other side.

Btw, another difference between you and I, is that I can calculate the hydrostatic pressures behind that dam, design one if I had to and make intelligent decisions about how to use it.

Before you start a rambling response think about what I’m saying.

And also bare in mind, what does truly make this country grand is the diversity of people that live here and not the lack there of.

The dispute you and I have is about the policies that will allow the run to continue.






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 05-29-2006, 22:50 Post: 130010
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Sorry you feel that way Chief, re-read my post.

Some of my post is a carry over from a prior discussion re the socialistic nature of the tax codes. Wing has a position, so do I.

Here’s my points to Wing:

Wearing a uniform isn’t a prerequisite for Patriotism.

Plenty of people make contributions in other ways. Their opinions are just as valid. Never said anything about people of service, just Wing. All based on his personal comments and my interpretation of those.

Socialism is bipartisan. Liberals and the Democratic Party don’t have sole claim.

The ultimate “down bringing” of this country will be poor economics, not terrorism.






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